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US and International News :: Re: Hillary hints at boots on the ground in Syria :: Reply by ...


Another war for the Nobel Prize President!
Date Published: May 31, 2012 - 10:08 pm



US and International News :: More fun from the U.N. :: Author Annoyed


Yeah, I know, you can't trust C-Net or download.com for files anymore, but this is probably accurate.
There are a couple of interesting sidebar links in the main article too.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-574446 ... u.s-warns/

Looks to me like they're just trying another end run to get authority to levy taxes on U.S. companies. To which "GO TO HELL" is the only appropriate response.
Date Published: Jun 01, 2012 - 7:42 am



US and International News :: 69K jobs added in May, U-2 up to 8.2% :: Author HowardRoarke


No doubt it will be revised downward, just like March and April's numbers:

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/06/01/j ... es-to-8-2/

Not good, especially when considering the colleges and high schools are letting out for the summer.

I listen to NPR to hear what kind of propaganda they're spewing every day, and they were predicting 150K jobs created in May.

Dear Leader is off to do 6 fundraisers, today. Oh, and at last night's fundraiser attendees were told to check their cell phones at the door, again, like at other recent fundraisers. What, they're afraid Dear Leader might have another "bitter clingers" moment?
Date Published: Jun 01, 2012 - 7:29 am


US and International News :: Re: 69K jobs added in May, U-2 up to 8.2% :: Reply by phantomlord


Don't forget 1Q GDP growth was lowered to 1.9%. (and don't forget that GDP INCLUDES government spending)...


kinda funny how the numbers are always announced in Obama's favor and then are quietly revised worse a month or two later...
Date Published: Jun 01, 2012 - 7:36 am


US and International News :: Re: 69K jobs added in May, U-2 up to 8.2% :: Reply by jokes


The spin on today's news will be interesting. So far the replies from the White House and Congressional Dems has been tepid at best. The stock market erased the gains for the entire year.

Harbingers of a second Obama term. :cry:
Date Published: Jun 01, 2012 - 9:13 am


US and International News :: Re: 69K jobs added in May, U-2 up to 8.2% :: Reply by phantomlord


I've long said that we were in a phony recovery/a bear market rally and we would see a double dip recession... it's coming, it just took a little longer than I thought it would.
Date Published: Jun 01, 2012 - 9:33 am


US and International News :: Re: 69K jobs added in May, U-2 up to 8.2% :: Reply by jokes


I'm not sure if this is a second recession or just an economy limping along yet never really recovering from the first recession. We've seen a couple of years of first quarter growth followed by a weakening in mid year and then flat for the rest of the year. All the spending, TARP, stimulus, etc. have not solved the problem because the public sector spending is not the answer. A robust economy can only come from a growing private sector where investment is made to make money. Making money in turn makes jobs. And everyone benefits even the govt. with increased tax revenues.

Yet the Democrats persist with Keynesian "solutions" that have failed for 3 1/2 years. It's time to change the players to folks that offer something more than free stuff and hope.
Date Published: Jun 01, 2012 - 9:46 am


US and International News :: Re: 69K jobs added in May, U-2 up to 8.2% :: Reply by phantomlord


jokes wrote:I'm not sure if this is a second recession or just an economy limping along yet never really recovering from the first recession. We've seen a couple of years of first quarter growth followed by a weakening in mid year and then flat for the rest of the year. All the spending, TARP, stimulus, etc. have not solved the problem because the public sector spending is not the answer. A robust economy can only come from a growing private sector where investment is made to make money. Making money in turn makes jobs. And everyone benefits even the govt. with increased tax revenues.


TARP, stimulus, etc artificially boosted the market and GDP. Government spending is part of the GDP equation, so if government spends dollarsignr1 trillion more and everything else stays the same, GDP would grow by dollarsignr1 trillion. Given that government spending HAS increased by dollarsignr1 trillion annually since Obama took office and GDP has grown from dollarsignr14291 in 2008 to dollarsignr15094 in 2011, where has the majority of the growth come from? Obviously, that dollarsignr1 trillion in new government spending...

Meanwhile, because of regime uncertainty caused by stuff like ObamasCare and the tens of billions in costly new regulations, private institutions are refusing to invest their money... what they are doing, is buying competitors and playing on the commodity speculation markets, which further concentrates markets, causes more layoffs and raises prices for consumers.

Like FDR, Obama's tinkering is harming the market rather than helping it... just wait until the bottom falls out, like it did to FDR in 1937. Only thing is, this time around, we aren't the world's sole manufacturer to recover with. We're more Weimar Republic today... unable to pay our existing debts and printing money rapidly to try to pretend we can.

Yet the Democrats persist with Keynesian "solutions" that have failed for 3 1/2 years. It's time to change the players to folks that offer something more than free stuff and hope.


Keynesian economics has failed since even before Keynes "came up" with it... it's been tried numerous times in the past and every time it has EVER been tried, it has failed. Even Keynes himself came to somewhat oppose his own theory when he realized that one of the key predicates - that the government run a surplus in the good times to make up for the deficit spending in the bad times - was never going to occur.

I've never been able to get a Keynesian to give me one proven success...
Date Published: Jun 01, 2012 - 10:23 am


US and International News :: Re: PEU numbers drop like a rock in WI :: Reply by rochester_veteran


I hope Walker wins the recall election by a landslide! According to a Marquette University Law School poll, Walker is up by 7 points.
Date Published: Jun 01, 2012 - 5:49 am


US and International News :: Re: PEU numbers drop like a rock in WI :: Reply by jokes


Was Barrett comparing the conditions for prison guards to those of teachers? :lol:
Date Published: Jun 01, 2012 - 10:30 am


US and International News :: Re: PEU numbers drop like a rock in WI :: Reply by phantomlord


jokes wrote:Was Barrett comparing the conditions for prison guards to those of teachers? :lol:


According to the teachers, the guards have it way better... I mean, don't you know what a bunch of monsters kids are? It takes someone with a lot of fortitude to be able to get up in front of a class of 12 year olds! You couldn't do the job! Why, you don't even have a Masters in Education, so why are you even talking to them? You know nothing about education! nothing!
Date Published: Jun 01, 2012 - 10:55 am


US and International News :: Re: Romney was for Vietnam before he was against it :: Reply by Melino


I knew I shouldn't have read this. I have 2 words to offer

Swift Boat.
Date Published: Jun 01, 2012 - 5:49 am


US and International News :: Re: Romney was for Vietnam before he was against it :: Reply by ...


Melino wrote:I knew I shouldn't have read this. I have 2 words to offer

Swift Boat.


You don't think there's a difference between someone that supported a war and then changed his mind (something Romney and Kerry both did)...

versus someone that nominated himself for purple hearts, including for minor scratches, so they could return to the States and start a political career by calling his fellow GIs murderers in the style of Ghengis Khan?

Yep, Kerry served and Romney didn't, but since when has service mattered to the left unless it's to point out a Republican didn't serve?
Date Published: Jun 01, 2012 - 7:32 am


US and International News :: Re: Romney was for Vietnam before he was against it :: Reply by jokes


When the Vietnam War started back in Kennedy's term many supported helping a small country defend itself against the Communists. It wasn't until LBJ escalated the war and the US de facto took it over that many decided that this was a war we shouldn't be in and couldn't win and the corrupt Saigon govt. wasn't worth saving at the cost of so much American blood and treasure.

Stark parallels to today's Afghanistan War just without the draft..
Date Published: Jun 01, 2012 - 9:17 am


US and International News :: Re: Romney was for Vietnam before he was against it :: Reply by Melino


You don't think there's a difference between someone that supported a war and then changed his mind



and or someone who dodged the war and avoided his service training while on abender?

Please STOP making Dubya out to be a saint when he isn't.
Date Published: Jun 01, 2012 - 11:52 am


 
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