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The Safely Sourcing China Business Directory

The Safely Sourcing China blog has opened a new service, and which is designed to assist those companies in the West wishing to trade with China, and those companies in China wishing to trade with the West, with a forum for coming together to assist and meet each others’ business needs and requirements.

Since membership is free, it costs you and your business nothing, except a minute of your time to complete the data input, to have your admission reviewed and included in the Safely Sourcing China Business Directory, providing you  and prospective clients with a link  back to your company website, email address, and telephone number .

The basic idea behind the Safely Sourcing China Business Directory is to bring entrepreneurs, and small, medium, and large businesses, with a specific interest in China Trade and Sourcing, a means of advertising themselves, and their services for free, in contrast to the many paid inclusion services available on the internet today.

Moreover, it also provides those companies who register in the Safely Sourcing China Business Directory the opportunity to generate a healthy, non-black-hat, back-link to their respective business or corporate websites, and which will assist them in raising their web presence, and consequently their Google page ranking.

The Safely Sourcing China Business Directory is not a free for all, and will be moderated; therefore, if you have the idea of spamming the directory with your inapplicable or non-relevant data and links, your IP will simply be blocked from further access to the blog, and your listing request deleted without ever being posted in the first instance.

That being said, we look forward to the many genuine Chinese and foreign companies wishing to post their details with us in the spirit of co-operation.

Links:

Registration Page.

Directory Page.

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Originally posted 2009-08-13 01:50:05. Republished by Old Post Promoter

What’s Your Passion?

Somebody recently emailed me via one of my social networks and asked me, “What’s your passion?“

I suppose I’d never really considered it very much before, as I’m pretty passionate about everything I find myself involved in, from what kind of shoes I wear, to why I have a particular disrespect for people of certain cultural or political standpoints.

I had to stop and think for a minute, and then I composed the following answer, which I feel should make quite clear to people, exactly what kind of man I am.

Anyway, since I have this little section of my blog set aside for me and mine, I thought I’d include it for others to read, comment on, and consider for themselves, just what it is they’re passion might be.

So, here’s my response, then, to the question, “What’s your passion?” for all to see.

My passion is making sure that when I exit the world, I leave behind a chain of people who are not the same as they were when they first met me; who feel better having known me, and, moreover, whose minds I’ve changed from a state of sociological and political inertness, to a stance of active participation; whilst instilling into such, the invaluable understanding that ONE person CAN make a difference to the world, today and tomorrow, – ONE person at a time; and penultimately, that things don’t have to be the way they are now,  or the way they seem they may  or might be tomorrow, because we CAN change the future ONE person at a time.

To think any other way, to believe ONE can do nothing because ONE is JUST ONE person, is to enable the nastier section of humanity to win at their game.

And, finally, as a father, a husband, a brother, and a friend, I don’t want them to win.

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Originally posted 2009-08-13 02:00:01. Republished by Old Post Promoter

Quick Checklist For How To Spot A Chinese Scam Site.

The following six red rags are simply a list of indicators, which in isolated terms, may or may not mean anything; however, when found all together, should ring some alarm bells. As with anything in business or life, the whole is greater than the sum of its’ parts.

1. The Site.

The website has an absence of any Chinese version for its’ own pages.

This means they’re targeting only one group of prospects – foreigners.

That is to say, people who will not stand a hope in hell’s chance of chasing them up after the bolt is shot.

In my experience, companies in China that have Chinese and English versions of their pages are usually genuine, as they’re making themselves accessible to the home market too; particularly for companies dealing in electronics, phones, and computers.

An absence of such, may, but not always, indicate a potential scam site.

O.K. our website only has English, but we deal with requests from foreigners, and we seek-out suppliers. Suppliers seldom seek us out; although, we occasionally have a Chinese company approach us with an offer and  an introduction.

2. Contact Information.

All the email addresses are ‘Hotmail‘ or ‘Yahoo‘; there is a distinct absence of a company email address.

This in and of itself doesn’t carry too much weight, as many genuine Chinese companies operate with private email addresses.

However, it is a common enough marker amongst the scammers.

You can also try running a quick check on the company’s name and address, via the online English language page of the Yellow Pages for China, found at: www.yp.net.cn/english/.

If they have no listing, then there’s a good chance they aren’t a genuine company; either that, or they’re a SOHO (Small Office Home Office), and use their home as an office, as they usually never come face-to-face with clients, and have no need of an office as such.

However, this wouldn’t usually be the case for a technology company, as they’d normally have to have an official office, and storage facilities out of mere necessity.

3. Company Registration Number.

Of course, as a legally registered business entity, they’d need to have a business registration number.

When once you have that number, you can go to the following Ministry of Commerce (MOFCOM) page, for contact details of the Local Administrations office, and try to get the data for the government business registration office in the city, and the province where they claim to be registered. You can then email, fax, or phone requesting to know if this number matches a genuine business.

MOFCOM Local Administration Contact Page: http://english.mofcom.gov.cn/aarticle/topic/chinainvest/localguide/200702/20070204378447.html.

Sadly however, the Ministry’s own website is very poorly put together, as you yourself will note upon visiting it, and a search for the contact data for the appropriate office may not actually work; neither does the page display correctly. I have informed the Ministry of this fault, as have others, but to no avail.

This is something I’m in the process of changing by putting together my own listing, and which I shall make available to registered users of Safely Sourcing China, and collated on a provincial, and city level.

The inaction of the Ministry to properly display this data, and its’ accompanying suspicion which is cast upon the Ministry itself, seems to have escaped them.

4. Unbeatable Offer.

This one is a complete no-brainer; if the price seems to good to be true – then it’s a scam.

5. Payment.

Ask if the company will accept an L/C (Letter of Credit); if they only take Western Union, PayPal, and the likes, then they’re more than likely a scammer.

6. IP Check.

Run an IP address check on the company and see how many other web addresses they have registered to them.

Personally I’ve come across guys with upwards of 2 or 3 hundred websites connected to them as the registrant.

Go here and type the web address, MINUS the WWW bit, into the box: whois.domaintools.com/.

This last one is a definite NO-NO. If you see they’re registered to a cartload of websites, just turn your back, shake the dust from your sandals, and leave.

And that’s about it for your basic checks; more to come in the future.

Trade Safely!

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Originally posted 2009-08-13 01:20:19. Republished by Old Post Promoter

China – Games Consoles And The Scam

More than a few people have discussed XBOX and Games Consoles, and I’ve often been asked about sourcing them.

I’d like to make specific mention of this issue briefly here.

The Parallel or Grey Importing of Goods.

Scammers Love You, Because You Love This!

I’ll talk about parallel or grey importing using computers as an example first, and then follow on to briefly discuss games consoles and Xboxes.

Brand name electrical goods and computers CAN be found here in China.

However, when you start trying to take them from China (or anywhere else) into other countries, then you fall into an area known as parallel or grey importing. Many companies are now really cracking down on this, particularly SONY™ for instance, in co-operation with the EU, there has a been a dramatic increase in seizures of goods at ports.

Scammers Love Your Money - And You Love To Give It To Them!

The parallel or grey market is the trade of something legal through unofficial, unauthorized, and usually unintended distribution channels.

For example: To export anything made by Dell™ in China, to the US, would be considered by Dell™ US to be poaching on their territory.

Sometimes the practice of parallel or grey importing is illegal, but not always so.

Many of the parties concerned with the parallel or grey importing of a good are usually the authorized agents or importers, or other retailers of an item in the target market. More often than not this is the national subsidiary of the manufacturer, or one of its related companies. In response to the ensuing damage to both their profits and their reputation, many manufacturers, and their official distribution chains will very often seek to restrict the parallel or grey market.

Such responses can breach competition law, particularly within the European Union.

Competition law, in the United States is known as antitrust law.

Refusal to Honour Warranties

Manufacturers have the right to refuse to honour the warranty of an item purchased from parallel or grey market sources, on the grounds that the higher price you should have paid on the non-grey market reflects a higher level of expected service.

To The Scammer, 'You' Are The 'Apple' of Their Eyes!

Additionally, companies may provide the warranty service only from the manufacturer’s subsidiary only from within the intended country of import, and not in the diverted third country to where the parallel or grey goods are ultimately sold by the unauthorised distributor or retailer.

Are you prepared to make money at any cost?

Are you the kind of person who’d sell grey or parallel goods to someone, irrespective of the effective lack of any genuine warranty on those goods?

Do you not care about the end user, your client, and your own reputation?

Because, if your answer is ‘yes‘ to the first two questions, and ‘no‘ to the third one, then I really don’t see much difference between you and the scammers.

In my opinion, if you’re buying grey or parallel, then you’re obviously a bit shady yourself.

The response by scammers to the grey market is particularly evident in the electronic goods market, where I hear people crying loudly at having been ripped and burned regularly!

Have You Got Money To Burn?

Yes, it seems to be the people endeavouring to buy games and game consoles, along with iPhones etc., who are the one’s who get burned most frequently by the scammers.

Just by virtue of wanting these goods grey or parallel, you put yourself at the scammers table, and if you’re unlucky (which you most probably will be) you’ll find yourself on a scammers dinner plate too.

If that’s you, or you’re thinking about entering this line of business, then I suggest you find another product line to trade in, one that you can get direct from a good OEM/ODM in China.

Remember, the scammers love those who love to buy grey!

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Originally posted 2009-08-13 05:31:50. Republished by Old Post Promoter

TsingHua TongFang (THTF)
Name Beijing Based Your China Trading Partner As Their New Agent for Europe, North America, and Africa.

TsingHuaTongfang

TsingHua TongFang (THTF) is presently ranked in the top 10 leading manufactures in the world, in the first 6 in the Asia-Pacific Region, and number 2 in the Chinese domestic market (IDC figures), and which also owns the largest and most advanced PC production factory in the world with a total area of 50,000 square meters and a production capacity of 5 million units per annum, has named Mr. Ken Stone, of yourchinatradingpartner.com (YCTP) in Beijing, as their new European, North American, and African sales and marketing agent as of the 30th of April 2009.

This multi-billion dollar Chinese brand currently holds the number 2 position in the CE, PC, OEM, and ODM China markets, and as such is a world leader in the production of computers and associated technologies.

Mr. Lu ZhiCheng, President Of TsingHua TongFang Co. Ltd.

THTF, a state-owned enterprise or SOE, and which is partnered with TsingHua University in Beijing, which holds the largest equity stake in the group. As the commercial arm of TsingHua University, THTF’s main goal is to build industry chains within the information and environmental energy industries, and which include the production and servicing of products as diverse as PCs, laptops, notebooks, netbooks, mobile telephones, LED chips, security systems, and digital TVs.

Currently the THTF English language website is still under construction however, any queries or information requests regarding any THTF computer related products may be directed to Mr. Ken Stone via the Your China Trading Partner website on yourchinatradingpartner.com.

YCTP are a Beijing-based Sino-Anglo family-owned product sourcing and due diligence performance company; predominantly servicing small to medium sized foreign enterprises and businesses seeking to source products, to have a representative presence in China, or to protect their investments or purchases against cyber-crime or cyber-fraud through their due diligence services.

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Originally posted 2009-08-13 01:30:09. Republished by Old Post Promoter

Mr. Stefano Carboni Of eSources Seems To Have Been Somewhat Busy In The Scam Sector.

Isn’t fate a strange and flirtatious creature?

Here I am being ripped-off by Mr. Stefano Carboni, and his “Trade Portal” eSources; when I check out search terms on my blog and see that someone has arrived at my pages through a search in Google for the following string, “stefano carboni scam“.

I think to myself, “Hello, what’s this?“, and follow the link to the Google search page where I find a number of links connecting Mr. Carboni’s name to the word “scam“, and not in a very positive way. Actually, in a very negative way.

Interestingly the first two listings are mine. One I published on the RipOffReport website immediately after I lost my first money to him in April; and the other directing people to my previous eSources article in this blog.

Another Of Mr. Stefano Carboni's Sites.

The third link connected me to a site called UK Fraud Forum, where I found an article simply entitled “wholesaledeals.co.uk“. In which article an individual describes his or her attempts to get the goods for which they’d payed £ 476.80. This individual had tried to email the site, for support, backup, and information; however this was apparently nothing but a send message function, not a real email address, and so simply bounced back.

Additionally, no one answered the phone, as is also the case with eSources, where they provide a phone number to make the page look legitimate, but don’t “offer telephone support“. Meaning, absolutely nobody to talk to at any point in the event of anything going wrong.

This person, then got on to the police, their bank, and also the Trading Standards Office, but eventually got Mr. Carboni’s attention by ordering goods to the value of £ 30,000, but didn’t complete the payment schedule section.

By which point, it had now been three weeks that this individual had ordered their goods, without them having arrived, and had been unable to attract Mr. Carboni’s attention by any of the usual media.

Now, however it would seem, that since Mr. Carboni could see the potential of reaping a £ 30,000 windfall, as it flickered across his screen, or shot him off an email warning him of a failed transaction of  £ 30,000; within a mere hour of seeing this failed transaction notice, Mr. Carboni himself called the victim. Isn’t greed a wonderful motivator? Evidently, he hadn’t checked the details of this “client“, and wasn’t aware that he was in for a bit of an ear-bashing.

In the complainants own words, “it went on from there. a few excuses followed. delivery never turning up and another excuse, and on and on. they turned up in the end but some things were broken, items were of a cheaper nature then what i ordered. i definately will not use them again. one of the worst companies i have ever had to deal with.”

I think this individual was extremely lucky to even get these things. It’s quite possible that Mr. Carboni’s own greed for the possible £ 30,000 was behind this individual getting anything remotely resembling his or her actual order.

Another point to note is that the street address, as published on this website  is different from the eSources address; moreover, the complainant, in this particular case, did a little research, and discovered that the post code for the address given, was not actually in concord.  A fake address? They didn’t match. I haven’t confirmed this myself, but I’m quite interested to try the same with the eSources address. Although, I have recently been informed another victim of Mr. Carboni’s unusual business practices, that the address for the eSources business is merely a postal address, and the business doesn’t reside there in actuality. Indeed, this former victim is in doubt as to whether Mr. Carboni’s business enterprises are actually located in the UK.

Why not publish a real address? What’s he got to hide?

So, what do we have here?

We have faulty addresses, no phone, no proper email service, failure to deliver, and only contacting the client in the hopes of getting his hands on £ 30,000.

Another interesting connection to Mr. Carboni is to be found on the following link to a page on Data Wales’ website entitled:

“The fake job offer fraud. They promise a percentage, but you would lose money (and possibly your liberty). The checks they send are forged!”

Where they list the following, “Stefano Carboni, eSources UK, esources.co.uk, 27 Old Gloucester Street London  WC1N 3XX, st.carboni@yahoo.com.hk.” as being an alleged perpetrator of such an email scam or fraud.

It’s interesting to note that, Mr. Carboni doesn’t use his eSources email address, as one would expect from a respectable business person, but uses  instead a Yahoo, Hong Kong email address.

Why is that I wonder? Something to hide perhaps?

Moving on, I next find Mr. Carboni’s name connected to the Antifraud International website, where his name is listed at Number 286 on the Representative Fake Cheque Scam (RFCS) page.

Sprinting on, we next find Mr. Carboni’s name mentioned on the Scam Baiter website in connection with the RFCS cited above; and again on the 419 Scam site, and on.

So, it certainly seems that Mr. Carboni has a history of fraud and scamming; unless he has been the victim of identity theft himself?

Check it out for yourself at Google.

If you have had any problems of this kind with either of Mr. Carboni’s websites, please email your details to me. Thank you!

Keep you posted!

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Originally posted 2009-08-13 01:05:32. Republished by Old Post Promoter

YCTP – Fighting Cyber-Crime And Online-Fraud In China

Due to the increase in claims by small, medium, and even some quite large foreign firms, complaining of having been the victims of cyber-crime or cyber-fraud, Your China Trading Partner – Beijing (YCTP) have decided to open a new area of service for foreign clients, as a means of minimising or eliminating such risk.

YCTP Fighting Fraud

YCTP is a small product sourcing company based in Beijing, China, and predominantly servicing small to medium sized foreign enterprises seeking to source products, or to have a representative presence in China.

As far back as November, 2006, the 17th Asia-Pacific Economic Co-operation Forum, held in Busan, South Korea, China endorsed the APEC Privacy Framework along with representatives of the other 20 member countries and territories, as a means of combating threats in the form of a then growing gang of highly-organized cyber-criminals.

Since then the government of the Peoples’ Republic of China has taken proactive steps in a targeted and co-ordinated approach, by bringing together a group of the World’s most practiced IT experts to devise and discover ways and means of mitigating cyber-crime. Yet still this form of crime is still prevalent on the mainland today.

In 2009 the Internet Crime Complaint Centre released its latest annual report on victims’ complaints received and referred to law enforcement departments in the US.

YCTP Fighting Cyber-Fraud

Between January 1^st, 2008 and December 31^st, 2008, the IC3 website was in receipt of 275,284 complaint submissions. This being a 33.1% increase on those of 2007 when only 206,884 complaints were received. The greater part of these submissions was composed of complaints primarily related to fraudulent activities perpetrated via the Internet.

Non-delivery of merchandise was the most predominantly reported offence, and which comprised a total of 32.9% of the total referred complaints.

To meet the necessity for security in trade, and its’ accompanying growth in demand from foreign businesses, YCTP have now incorporated a new background checking and referencing function into their business, as a means of assisting foreign buyers, private or B2B, in protecting their investments, or purchases, against cyber-fraud; this being achieved through on-the-spot face-to-face due diligence services.

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Originally posted 2009-08-13 01:15:42. Republished by Old Post Promoter

Some Concerns About Sourcing From China.

The following are a list of some of the more common questions people seem to have regarding trading with China. I have sought to answer them as directly and frankly as I can.

Why am I worried about sourcing from or manufacturing in China?

Firstly, if you aren’t concerned, you might as well open your window, set fire to your money, and start shoveling it out of the window into the street.

There is risk in anything we do in the world of business, and to think otherwise is to fool oneself into a false sense of security.

Moreover, to believe that one can safely self-source from China is equally as absurd and dangerous.

Your concerns are valid, as they would be even if you were sourcing from Israel, Portugal, or any other country; and trading or dealing with China is no different.

China has its’ own set of cultural and business subtleties and values, to which you as a foreigner or someone unaccustomed to dealing with China, may be totally oblivious to; but to someone such as myself, having lived here for 8 years, are not lost to me.

And it is precisely for these reasons that you need someone here you can trust, who is culturally familiar with those nuances of business and social culture, and who can operate in and on your behalf.

What about quality? Isn’t China famous for producing poor quality goods?

That may well have been true at one time. However, you need to ask your self whether you’re happy with the quality of your iPhone? Because Apple have been producing in China for a number of years, along with a plethora of other famous High Street brands.

Of course, that isn’t to say that quality doesn’t or can’t suffer. It does, as with anywhere else in the world. However, if you ensure that random quality checking is employed before the goods leave port, then one can drastically mitigate this risk.

Furthermore, when once you develop a successful long-term relationship with a manufacturer, they will understand the benefits of not cutting their own throats.

To my mind, one of the reasons China has gained its’ reputation for poor quality, is also in part due to a failure of buyers to perform the necessary due diligence and oversight that they should.

However, allow me to reiterate a point I’ve just made: Sound partners, and a representative presence in Mainland China, able to perform your due diligence, and maintain an oversight of quality, plus developing your long-term relationship with the producer, will go a long way towards drastically mitigating the issue of poor quality to a level acceptable in the West.

So, how many people will have their fingers in my, production and purchasing, pie in China?

Well, the people, or groups involved could be as few as one, if your goods are coming from one of the larger companies, such as TsingHua TongFang, whom I represent as Agent to Africa, Europe, and North America; or they could be several, for one of the smaller companies. Of course, the amount of fingers in the pie will play a very definite role in the cost of your goods, and sometimes even the quality.

However, the role of ‘GuanXi’, or what we would term ‘relationships’, plays a significant role in Chinese society at all levels, and particularly in business; as it has done for several thousand years, and the power of which shouldn’t be ignored or underestimated, and which is an unavoidable necessity and phenomena.

This is a deeply ingrained and necessary interpersonal skill, and which is tightly bound and woven into the fabric of the Chinese psyche. I’m sure that should you check your own embassy websites in China you will come across the term ‘GuanXi’ several times.

No ‘GuanXi’, no help!

It is precisely for this reason, that should you intend doing business in, or with, China, you need a mediator to act as a conduit to facilitate smooth and safe trading.

Your conduit can form relationships on your behalf, that you are unable to form due to geographical distance, language, and cultural distance.

You scratch my back, and I’ll scratch yours; is precisely how it works in China.

What if my goods aren’t delivered on time or the quality isn’t what I requested?

Well, in that case we incorporate into the contract CIETAC’s model arbitration clause.

NOTE: CIETAC (China International Economic and Trade Arbitration Commission (A government department and Part of MOFCOM - The Chinese Ministry of Commerce).

Here’s the clause:

“Any dispute arising from or in connection with this Contract shall be submitted to China International Economic and Trade Arbitration Commission for arbitration which shall be conducted in accordance with the Commission’s arbitration rules in effect at the time of applying for arbitration. The arbitral award is final and binding upon both parties.”

The same clause can be used for the safety of your financial transaction, in addition to opening a Letter of Credit (L/C) rather than a Telegraphic Transfer (TT) of funds.

Of course your letter of credit can dictate additional terms before funds are released; these terms can be specifically directed at shipping windows and parameters, levels of acceptable quality, processing of any and all necessary certificates and forms, proper and correct carton and packaging markings, and any necessary Electronic Data Interchange (EDI) Standards compliance. Consequent to which, should the terms not be met as defined in the terms of the contract and in the letter of credit, then it will be up to you to decide or determine whether the funds be made available to the seller.

So, that’s it for today.

Safe Trading!

Originally posted 2009-08-13 01:10:36. Republished by Old Post Promoter

Further Tips On Dealing With China.

Here are a few extra notes on safely sourcing products in China, from the Safely Sourcing China blog.

Learn what you can from your prospective ‘supplier’s’ website, or lack thereof.

Web Presence.

Firstly, if they don’t have their own website, drop them like a hot rock.

That includes those “companies” in possession of the rubbish little “pages” on Alibaba, etc.

No Domain – No Hope!

Although, personally I do know of companies in China who are real, but their marketing sucks so badly they haven’t managed to organise a web presence.

But, I’m a graduate of the ‘better-safe-than-sorry’ school, when it comes to this particular aspect of doing business in China.

If your prospective “supplier” owns a website, then check that the area code, given in the contact section, matches the postcode, or town or city name, given in the address. You can check postcodes here.

If they don’t match, drop them like a hot rock.

The following mobile telephone prefixes will allow you to determine which mobile telephone network is being used by your “supplier”, in case you need to connect with the service provider, to check if the number is still working, when calls fail to be answered  by the person you’ve gone sent your money to, whilst failing to perform any of the checks given here. The service provider name follows the prefix number.

130/1/2 . - China Unicom, 133 . – China Telecom , 1340 -1348 – China Mobile, 1349. – ChinaSat, 135/6/7/8/9. - China Mobile, 150. – China Mobile, 151. – China Mobile, 152. - China Mobile, 153. -China Telecom, 155. – China Unicom, 156. – China Unicom, 157. – China Mobile, 158. -China Mobile, 159. – China Mobile, 185. - China Unicom, 186. – China Unicom, 188. – China Mobile, 189. – China Telecom.

You can visit this very nice page on WikiPedia for a more complete listing of area codes by major municipality and province.

If they don’t have an address on their contact page, forget them.

After all, if they aren’t willing to disclose their address, then you must ask yourself a one word question -

“Why?”.

On The Subject Of Addresses.

My business is registered in a residential property, as we are a Small Office Home Office (SOHO), as we neither manufacture, store, stock, and we very rarely have business visitors; due to the fact we supply nothing more than ‘information’, we go out to visit Chinese companies, and our foreign clients are just that – foreign, and live abroad, and so we needn’t waste money on having an actual office. My computer is my office.

However, someone claiming to manufacture, stock, or supply must have an office, for the same reasons I don’t need one.

An office will normally be in a building with a name, for example:

Room 602, Floor 5, Great Dragon Bldg., Haidian District, Beijing.

Whilst a SOHO, like us, will run as above, but minus the building name, and is indicative of a residential area.

About Us.

If they haven’t included and about us page in their website, or it is very sparse, then drop them.

Obviously, if they have little to say about themselves, there’s a reason.

Google Them.

The next thing to do is Google their company name + scam, and also their company URL + scam.

That alone should give enough of a heads-up on who you’re dealing with.

Mono-Lingual Websites.

Finally, as mentioned in my previous article Quick Checklist For How To Spot A Chinese Scam Site, if the website is devoid of Chinese, and only has an English language page, the chances are they’re scammers.

Well, that’s it for today.

Trade Safely!

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Originally posted 2009-08-13 02:44:16. Republished by Old Post Promoter